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		<title>By: lawrencefajardo</title>
		<link>http://blog.jwegener.com/2009/06/25/part-two-the-business-of-sms-couponing/comment-page-1/#comment-1250</link>
		<dc:creator>lawrencefajardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 05:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct! also as opposed to mail, that at times remains not opened, every &lt;a href=&quot;http://smsmobilemarketings.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SMS Mobile Marketing&lt;/a&gt; individual likely will open the message at a minimum. These pros have triggered a reply rate of 20% to 88%, depending upon the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct! also as opposed to mail, that at times remains not opened, every <a href="http://smsmobilemarketings.com" rel="nofollow">SMS Mobile Marketing</a> individual likely will open the message at a minimum. These pros have triggered a reply rate of 20% to 88%, depending upon the market.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Wegener</title>
		<link>http://blog.jwegener.com/2009/06/25/part-two-the-business-of-sms-couponing/comment-page-1/#comment-509</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Wegener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 00:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Paul,&lt;br&gt;Thanks for the comment.  Glad to hear there&#039;s an upper limit to the amount a service has to pay for text messages.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;d love to hear more about how you&#039;re scaling the obstacles and difficulties of being a hyperlocal company if you&#039;re willing to share dirty details :)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks,&lt;br&gt;Jonathan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Paul,<br />Thanks for the comment.  Glad to hear there&#39;s an upper limit to the amount a service has to pay for text messages.  </p>
<p>I&#39;d love to hear more about how you&#39;re scaling the obstacles and difficulties of being a hyperlocal company if you&#39;re willing to share dirty details <img src='http://blog.jwegener.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks,<br />Jonathan</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Rosenfeld</title>
		<link>http://blog.jwegener.com/2009/06/25/part-two-the-business-of-sms-couponing/comment-page-1/#comment-494</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Rosenfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan I do love how you&#039;ve thought deeply about this. We&#039;re &lt;a href=&quot;http://fanminder.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fanminder.com&lt;/a&gt; by the way, all about mobile marketing. I also know the Mobile Spinach guys.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The one big miss in your analysis is the $.03. At about $25,000 per month paid to SMS gateways there is very little or no more variable cost for text messages, depending on the gateway.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And it&#039;s true local is tough! :-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,&lt;br&gt;Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan I do love how you&#39;ve thought deeply about this. We&#39;re <a href="http://fanminder.com" rel="nofollow">fanminder.com</a> by the way, all about mobile marketing. I also know the Mobile Spinach guys.</p>
<p>The one big miss in your analysis is the $.03. At about $25,000 per month paid to SMS gateways there is very little or no more variable cost for text messages, depending on the gateway.</p>
<p>And it&#39;s true local is tough! <img src='http://blog.jwegener.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Rosenfeld</title>
		<link>http://blog.jwegener.com/2009/06/25/part-two-the-business-of-sms-couponing/comment-page-1/#comment-477</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Rosenfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan I do love how you&#039;ve thought deeply about this. We&#039;re &lt;a href=&quot;http://fanminder.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fanminder.com&lt;/a&gt; by the way, all about mobile marketing. I also know the Mobile Spinach guys.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The one big miss in your analysis is the $.03. At about $25,000 per month paid to SMS gateways there is very little or no more variable cost for text messages, depending on the gateway.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And it&#039;s true local is tough! :-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,&lt;br&gt;Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan I do love how you&#39;ve thought deeply about this. We&#39;re <a href="http://fanminder.com" rel="nofollow">fanminder.com</a> by the way, all about mobile marketing. I also know the Mobile Spinach guys.</p>
<p>The one big miss in your analysis is the $.03. At about $25,000 per month paid to SMS gateways there is very little or no more variable cost for text messages, depending on the gateway.</p>
<p>And it&#39;s true local is tough! <img src='http://blog.jwegener.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Wegener</title>
		<link>http://blog.jwegener.com/2009/06/25/part-two-the-business-of-sms-couponing/comment-page-1/#comment-436</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Wegener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you&#039;re missing is how to get anyone to care.  How do you get couponees to your site?  How do you get couponers to your site?  Without a significant number of both there&#039;s no value to the site -- getting over that critical mass hump would be brutal and take significant upfront investment in marketing efforts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you&#39;re missing is how to get anyone to care.  How do you get couponees to your site?  How do you get couponers to your site?  Without a significant number of both there&#39;s no value to the site &#8212; getting over that critical mass hump would be brutal and take significant upfront investment in marketing efforts.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson Stout</title>
		<link>http://blog.jwegener.com/2009/06/25/part-two-the-business-of-sms-couponing/comment-page-1/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson Stout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about a service that connects businesses (couponers) and couponees.   You provide an interface for both couponers and couponees to sign up.  Couponers send their coupon to their couponees through your site and pay per sms?   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m sure there is someone doing this - basically aweber for sms.  Surely seems like it scales.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What am I missing?   Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about a service that connects businesses (couponers) and couponees.   You provide an interface for both couponers and couponees to sign up.  Couponers send their coupon to their couponees through your site and pay per sms?   </p>
<p>I&#39;m sure there is someone doing this &#8211; basically aweber for sms.  Surely seems like it scales.</p>
<p>What am I missing?   Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Wegener</title>
		<link>http://blog.jwegener.com/2009/06/25/part-two-the-business-of-sms-couponing/comment-page-1/#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Wegener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But could you build a scalable business on the back of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But could you build a scalable business on the back of it?</p>
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		<title>By: Ashish</title>
		<link>http://blog.jwegener.com/2009/06/25/part-two-the-business-of-sms-couponing/comment-page-1/#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not use TextMarks.com? The user experience is a tad clunkier than email or using your own shortcode, but it&#039;s free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not use TextMarks.com? The user experience is a tad clunkier than email or using your own shortcode, but it&#39;s free.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Gejman</title>
		<link>http://blog.jwegener.com/2009/06/25/part-two-the-business-of-sms-couponing/comment-page-1/#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Gejman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. I wasn&#039;t running into any limits on AT&amp;T and Verizon on my (albeit limited) reminders sent from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.proddr.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.proddr.com&lt;/a&gt; (not currently working - I&#039;ve stopped developing it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. I wasn&#39;t running into any limits on AT&#038;T and Verizon on my (albeit limited) reminders sent from <a href="http://www.proddr.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.proddr.com</a> (not currently working &#8211; I&#39;ve stopped developing it).</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Wegener</title>
		<link>http://blog.jwegener.com/2009/06/25/part-two-the-business-of-sms-couponing/comment-page-1/#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Wegener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ron,&lt;br&gt;I found that the SMS &lt;-&gt; Email worked well the first time you send an email.  But that&#039;s it.  A second email attempt would be delayed for hours or days.  So if there was an upper limit, it seemed to be about, well, one.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Either way, we&#039;re talking about a hack, not a true scalable solution.  You can&#039;t build a VC-backed company on a technology hack like this.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One thing I find really interesting is companies using push notification on the iPhone as a way of getting around SMS fees:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.businessinsider.com/aols-aim-iphone-app-is-getting-awesome-disruptive-to-att-2009-6&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.businessinsider.com/aols-aim-iphone-...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ron,<br />I found that the SMS &lt;-&gt; Email worked well the first time you send an email.  But that&#39;s it.  A second email attempt would be delayed for hours or days.  So if there was an upper limit, it seemed to be about, well, one.</p>
<p>Either way, we&#39;re talking about a hack, not a true scalable solution.  You can&#39;t build a VC-backed company on a technology hack like this.</p>
<p>One thing I find really interesting is companies using push notification on the iPhone as a way of getting around SMS fees:  <a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/aols-aim-iphone-app-is-getting-awesome-disruptive-to-att-2009-6" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessinsider.com/aols-aim-iphone-&#8230;</a></p>
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